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Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 19:32:00 -
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After reading so much scripture quoting in another thread about the "reclaiming" fairy tale in which the Amarrian God supposedly exhorts "his people" to go out and do his dirty work, a thought occurred to me; if this God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent why does he need frail, flawed, ignorant and very limited humans? Why doesn't he just snap his fingers and make his will happen?
I know this will be looked at as a blasphemous joke by the hardcore faithful but, I'm quite serious here. You claim to follow an all-powerful supreme being who created the entirety of existence, who is capable of doing anything, yet he needs the Amarr Empire to carry out his commands? Sounds a little incongruous to me. Highly irrational. What's the story Amarrians? "Enlighten" me, please. |
Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 20:54:00 -
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I think he's awfully close to being an anti-Gallentean bigot and a Blood Raider but, that's beside the point.
If you want to flex your muscles and try to bully others with your theory of brute force, might makes right, rule by the gun Cononach then by all means, hop in a ship and do your best. This isn't about your simplistic idelogy, nor about the Federation, however. I want to know, preferably from a religious Amarrian, why their deity needs pitiful humans to do his bidding. |
Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 21:03:00 -
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Hey why let a little thing like reading comprehension and sticking on-topic destroy an opportunity to take a swipe at the Federation? It's nice to see that CVA has lowered its recruiting standards to allow the mentally challenged into its ranks. I guess they were getting low on numbers after getting run out of Providence last time, huh? |
Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.08 06:00:00 -
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Nicoletta Mithra wrote:Victoria Stecker wrote:Nicoletta Mithra wrote:. . . in his overflowing goodness. What God are you talking about? The God with whom 'good' doesn't equal to 'nice to everyone'.
Funny all that talk about a loving and caring God yet, one who isn't nice to everyone but, only to the Amarr? Why should I care then? If I'm forever doomed purely by accident of birth then why not rebel?
Apparently your God, who you say respects free will, is more lenient than you Amarr. At least your God isn't hurling lightning bolts towards Luminaire because we choose not to believe. Maybe you Amarr should think about doing the same?
Oh and "free will" and "faith" still don't answer my question. If your God is all powerful why doesn't he just smite all us so-called unrighteous? Why did he "allow" the Jove and Minmatar to rise up and thwart his "chosen people" who were, after all, just carrying out his will at his command?
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Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 08:00:00 -
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[quote=Kithrus
A butterfly that lives one year around a tree cannot comprehend anything truly about the tree as it doesn't have the experience or the time to witness it in its fullest being a limited creature. It doesn't change that the insect makes its home and benefits from the tree.
Granted the questions regarding God and Man are not that simple but it illustrates the point that we have a limited perception of God in a way you can see and relate to.[/quote]
How convenient. So the answer always ends up: this deity of yours defies any attempts on our part to understand it yet, we're to blindly accept whatever it bids us to do. Anything good or bad that happens we accept because the deity wills it and it can't be questioned because we're incapable of understanding the deity's motivations or plans.
That's a pretty nice setup. Seems like you can justify damn near anything.
I'd really appreciate it if any of you who follow the Amarrian religion would answer Captain Rella's question regarding how you'd respond if this deity of yours demanded something of that sort would you obey?
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Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 08:02:00 -
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Kithrus wrote:
A butterfly that lives one year around a tree cannot comprehend anything truly about the tree as it doesn't have the experience or the time to witness it in its fullest being a limited creature. It doesn't change that the insect makes its home and benefits from the tree.
Granted the questions regarding God and Man are not that simple but it illustrates the point that we have a limited perception of God in a way you can see and relate to.
How convenient. So the answer always ends up: this deity of yours defies any attempts on our part to understand it yet, we're to blindly accept whatever it bids us to do. Anything good or bad that happens we accept because the deity wills it and it can't be questioned because we're incapable of understanding the deity's motivations or plans.
That's a pretty nice setup. Seems like you can justify damn near anything.
I'd really appreciate it if any of you who follow the Amarrian religion would answer Captain Rella's question regarding how you'd respond if this deity of yours demanded something of that sort would you obey? |
Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.11 18:21:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:
Yes he can, because he can create anything.
But he would then lift it up anyway.
You'll probably say that my answer doesn't make much sense. But infinity seldom does when you're trying to comprehend it with a finite brain.
This all sounds like so much "handwavium" to try and explain and justify a bad plot predicament that you can't logically write yourselves out of. No matter what, the final answer is always, "Our god is perfect, we can't understand what he wants because we're imperfect but, we do what he says anyway because we're his chosen faithful servants and whatever we say and do in his name is justified".
You also failed to answer Captain Rella's question Blake. What is your god commanded you to murder your entire family and then commit suicide? Would you do it? |
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